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Rob

Hi Chet, the song that mentioned Barefoot Boy was "New York, You Got Me Dancing'" by Andrea True Connection.

Dino NJ

To address some previous posts: it was named Candle Bar, not "Candlelight" (on Amsterdam Ave between 74th & 75th in the Upper West Side). Small neighborhood bar with a pool table. I think it closed 4 or 5 years ago. There was also a hustler bar (can't remember name) in that neighborhood, maybe a block or two away? Not too far (West 70's) in the late 80s/early-mid 90s as well.

Dino NJ

Thanks for including King on 6th Ave on the list Rob. That dance floor on the 2nd floor was an actual enclosed room. Very small & intimate.

I interviewed to become a bartender there on July 10, 1995, when it had just opened.
That was an especially hot summer, late June & the first half of July, with temps in the upper 90's/low 100's and the accompanying, extremely oppressive heat indexes. I remember being there about 7pm for the interview and there was absolutely no one on the sidewalks.

Needless to say, never ended up getting the job as all the prime weekend shifts were already staffed. Working late night on an off night during the week was not doable, as I already had a job during the day, which I started that very same day of the interview, which is why I remember the precise July 10, 1995 date.

Came back 2 or 3 times as a patron, the last being April 1996 (went to the NY International Auto Show that day) and it wasn't very busy. Never seemed to gain traction or get going. Probably only lasted at least a year or two.

Alex

I had come across your Lost Bars list while searching, as I do every so often, for any references to "Billy's Chelsea Bar". Oddly enough it was one you could not clearly remember, and it is the one I remember best, it being my first gay bar back in September 1984. I came across it on my first trip to NYC. When I went back in 1986, I could not believe that a couple of the bartenders, including the owner Billy, remembered and recognized us.

When I finally moved to the City, it was gone, though over the years it resurfaced with different names. They were all seemingly very popular incarnations, but it never felt the same to me. When it was The Break, I believe it was owned by the same guy who also owned the Works. I tried making inquiries but to no avail.

Years ago I finally thought of trying the staff of the Rawhide, seeing as it was always a staple on Eighth Ave, I discovered it had just closed its doors for the last time, and literally closing an era.

If anyone out there remembers any of the staff, especially Billy himself or Peter, or has any information about them, I would appreciate it. It would be great to be able to send them my regards and let them know they have never been forgotten.

Alex (now in Toronto)

Neiani Leiyah

06.15.2020|05:39pm

Dear Bob, yes it brought a lot of memories of my new found freedom of being gay but was not lucky in the gay world as far as meeting 'him'
maybe because I was soft and feminine instead of being 'butch'. Just in case you missed it, my very first gay dance bar was called The Round Table
located (hope I'm right) on the north side of 51st between Madison and Park Ave. Have you been there or heard of it? Back then, beautiful and sexy lipsyncing drag queens with their Diana Ross and Barbra Streisand, etc song numbers. I was originally looking for my former boyfriends and the bars I met them, and this is how I came across your site. Thank you very much for this. Have a good one and be safe in this our COVID-19 global pandemic.

H♡gs to you and yours. . .

Neiani

JOHN VETTER

The Circle (9th) was by far the best bar for Disco Sucks gay guys , met so many cool people there, and the best Jukebox in the early 80's ..Not to mention iconic pictures of Janice and Lennon. Just a great place to be a non traditional 70's clone. No offense meant. And another one not mentioned The Headless Horseman right across from the 9th C , Great owners, bartenders ,quiet drinking bar with an awesome stained glass depiction of The Horseman riding carrying his head lol

Rob

Hi John, I've never heard of the Headless Horeseman - was it a gay bar?

Strtlevel

I used to do my laundry on Third Avenue and 29th Street, I believe there's a Dunkin Donuts there now. South Dakota was next door to the laundromat, and I used to stop in there during my rinse cycle. Not sure if they moved to there/from there, my memory of South Dakota is 29th & 3rd. This would have been 1982 or so.

Also, I used to drink at a bar called McGregor's Garage on St Marks Place. I knew a girl from Belize, we used to go out dancing occasionally. McGregor's was the only place I knew to find her. One night I went down to see if she was around, and there was a giant crowd outside, turns out McGregor's Garage had closed and it was opening night at Boy Bar. It looked pretty packed, I was going to go somewhere else and then I saw Quentin Crisp's taxi pull up and he went in. Someone else said tap beer was free, so it didn't take much more for me to go in. Had a great time!

Marius

Hi, I am trying to research a portrait I got from my late friend Charles Duval Whitehead, who was the uncle of the original owner of the original Uncle Charlie's Bar bar, which was on 3rd Avenue in the Murray Hill section. When my friend was older, I used to drive him into the City and we were never charged for drinks at his nephew's bar!

By chance, might you know his nephew's name? He was the original owner, and later opened another one in Florida.

Thanks for any help or any direction you, or one of your readers, can give me.

Tom ledcle

The Crowbar was my fave. The Bar was on my corner so I’d stat there then mosey down to Crowbar and a bar on First Ave and 9th? Then once in a blue moon to Club 84 on 2nd and4th between 1990 and 1996 there were blue moons almost every weekend.

Rob

Who knows, we may have encountered each other at Club 84, which I occasionally visited in the early '90s.

RODNEY PHILLIPS

EXCELLENT ARTICLE---[THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES. DO YOUV REMBER THE STUD? I HAVEN'T THE FAINTEST IDEA WHERE IT WAS. ALSO THE ROADHOUSE CORNER OF W. 11TN AND 7TH AVE.

THERE IS ONE OTHER SOMWHERE WEST OF 7TH AVE--HD A SMALL BACKROOM

ALSO WAVERLY WAVERLEY A BAR ON THE TOP FLOOR.


RODNEY PHILLIPS

Alston Green

Sam , I think the place you are thinking of was Zone DK

a1

i still remember the nice bartenders from south dakota during 1998, like fidel and rene.
it was such a cool bar with many nice guys.
do someone knows those bartenders and how are they, in those days? i will be happy to know it or to contact in their facebook.

Jorge

Anyone remenber THE SAINT It was so big went there 2 may 3 times that dance floor was amazing never so one so big and the ligth show just beyond great i wonder if the building still there 105 second ave

Rob

Hi Jorge, I've written two posts about The Saint. You can find them either in the category Nightlife on this blog or Google, "The Saint Opens as AIDS Looms", and "Last Dance at The Saint".

James Cherry

Just to clear up a couple of loose ends: The gay bar on 9th Avenue between 55th and 56th Streets was called Crossroads. One bartender there in its prime was named Paul Schisler. I know because I had briefly dated him. An Upper Westside haunt that is mentioned by one former patron was officially called 'The Candlelight Lounge' but was known informally as 'The Candle'. The West Village bar known as 'The Stud' or sometimes oddly, 'The International Stud', had a gold and black lettered, street-facing window naming itself 'The International'. (Its original name from God knows how long before its time as a backroom gay bar.) It was West of Hudson Street and a couple of blocks north of where I lived on Hudson and 10th Street when I was 20 years old. I once returned from 'The Stud' and sensing I was being followed, trotted up the steps of my unlocked tenement building only to have this person (whose face I had never even seen) find his way to my door. I braced myself against the door and looking out the peephole I could only see another eye looking back at me. He whispered in a husky voice: "What's the matter, don't you want any?" There happened to be a gay serial killer on the loose in those days (early 70's) and I am quite sure I had an encounter with him and I don't think they ever caught the guy. Well, it made a good goose bump-raising story back in the day.

Nick Perry

Wow all great memories bunch of bars in Queens also, Flavors all time favorite just a lot of fun knew most of the bartenders there. Cockring loads of fun dancing for ever, Twilo too does anyone remember USA ? Off of 8th Av?

bill bohaboy

how about the Alamo on 8th ave it was upstairs from a coffee shop, mob owned it was a fun place i met my lover there in 1967 lol. damn alot of water under the bridge.

Mikey M

Actually, it was the Ramrod where the shooting occured in 1981 (which was next to Sneskers in the middle of the block on West St.). Badlands was on the corner of West and Christopher.

Toni

Don't forget Choo Choo bar on the west side highway " Sneakers "

Anthony

What about the Haymarket, O, Nealls Backyard or Trix all hustler bars in mid town on the west side

Roger

The underground place was on 14th and Ninth (or Hudson) and was appropriately called THE UNDERGROUND.

I believe I have been at every one of rthe bars mentioned in the article.

Please don't let that article ever disappear.

Ritch

Hey Gents, IDK if this post is still active, but IM having a mental block about my daze back in the East Village..late 80's. I lived on 7th between 1st and Ave A... I know the Pyramid was around the corner to the east, on A, but I seem to remember hanging out slightly to the west, on 1st or 2nd Ave...with all my buds... A total dive bar, super friendly (if ya know what I mean)...and am particularly trying to rebuild the memory of a friend long gone whom I met there. I think it was simply called "The Bar"....and a Google search led me here. Anyone know anything more specific about it? It doesn't seem to show up on any of the "bars of yore" lists... Thank you! Ritch

Bubba

Ritch, I remember "The Bar". It was on an avenue, maybe 1st. Very plain, pool tables, neighborhood kind of place.

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